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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-3105</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marion, I would be careful using spoof email addresses. No they can&#039;t be seen on-site but I as the administrator see them as I need to check out that you&#039;re legit and not a spammer. By actually announcing in your email that you&#039;re a spammer (or suggesting it) it is practically begging the site administrator to put your comment in the spam bin. Some sites will do this automatically. You&#039;re lucky that I actually read your comment and used my discernment - even though I still disagree with you about Bonsai :) Still hate the things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marion, I would be careful using spoof email addresses. No they can&#8217;t be seen on-site but I as the administrator see them as I need to check out that you&#8217;re legit and not a spammer. By actually announcing in your email that you&#8217;re a spammer (or suggesting it) it is practically begging the site administrator to put your comment in the spam bin. Some sites will do this automatically. You&#8217;re lucky that I actually read your comment and used my discernment &#8211; even though I still disagree with you about Bonsai <img src='http://www.veitchsmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Still hate the things.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t take it serious :-) I use several different adresses, some especially for sites I am not sure about. This is my first time here and I had to enter any to write a comment. I thought it was not to be seen?
I followed a Bonsai Forum and somebody had posted a link. 

Not all Bonsai come from seed which may have had a better chance if it did not fall into this kind of gardners hands. Many Bonsai are built up on Yamadori, plants found anywhere out there, which did not grow up normal anyway, stayed small for any reason. You can find them in streets, gardens, graveyard dustbins, hedges and any other wooden plants to be rooted out. Mom&#039;s calling: &quot;There&#039;s an oak in my salad patch!&quot; They got a new life. 

Another interesting thought: many trees can grow new roots on a cut branch, and one method to get a Bonsai is to do so. Nevertheless it&#039;s still the same tree. Same DNA and everything. 
Isn&#039;t a tree kinda immortal with this?

Bonsai will never become a big tree. But with some luck and good hands of their new gardener people also will stand stunned and look in disbelief on what is a model of a big, beautiful, well grown tree, Lord Gods wonderful work at its best.
http://www.artofbonsai.org/galleries/zhao.php
(The one with the horse is my favorite)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t take it serious <img src='http://www.veitchsmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I use several different adresses, some especially for sites I am not sure about. This is my first time here and I had to enter any to write a comment. I thought it was not to be seen?<br />
I followed a Bonsai Forum and somebody had posted a link. </p>
<p>Not all Bonsai come from seed which may have had a better chance if it did not fall into this kind of gardners hands. Many Bonsai are built up on Yamadori, plants found anywhere out there, which did not grow up normal anyway, stayed small for any reason. You can find them in streets, gardens, graveyard dustbins, hedges and any other wooden plants to be rooted out. Mom&#8217;s calling: &#8220;There&#8217;s an oak in my salad patch!&#8221; They got a new life. </p>
<p>Another interesting thought: many trees can grow new roots on a cut branch, and one method to get a Bonsai is to do so. Nevertheless it&#8217;s still the same tree. Same DNA and everything.<br />
Isn&#8217;t a tree kinda immortal with this?</p>
<p>Bonsai will never become a big tree. But with some luck and good hands of their new gardener people also will stand stunned and look in disbelief on what is a model of a big, beautiful, well grown tree, Lord Gods wonderful work at its best.<br />
<a href="http://www.artofbonsai.org/galleries/zhao.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.artofbonsai.org/galleries/zhao.php</a><br />
(The one with the horse is my favorite)</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona Veitch Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona Veitch Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marion, I must say I was reluctant to approve a comment from anyone who has &#039;spammail&#039; in their email address! What&#039;s that about? However, you make some good points and I thank you for your contribution to the discussion.

Fiona</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marion, I must say I was reluctant to approve a comment from anyone who has &#8217;spammail&#8217; in their email address! What&#8217;s that about? However, you make some good points and I thank you for your contribution to the discussion.</p>
<p>Fiona</p>
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		<title>By: Marion</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-3089</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 09:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord God made all plants to grow almost wherever their seed has fallen down and simply make the best of it. If you happen to live in a town and walk around with open eyes, you&#039;ll find plants in most unbelievable places, and even trees. 
To survive in all those places is their biggest potential. To become a giant is just an ability.

So, there are two choices: make the best of the situation and 
grow, or die.
Those, who get the opportunity to grow big by getting enough space and food, will do so immediately. But at least they can give the chance to the next generation.
Those who are dead, will not do anything.

BTW: the  more colorful the leaves show in autumn, the better the year has been for the tree. 
The American Oak, also called Red Oak, will get less and less red in autumn the older the tree gets. As a Bonsai the color stays in age. Whilst the wild one stays lifelong on always the same ground, the Bonsai gets a new fresh ground and a root cut every few years.

A wild growing tree will grow as big as it can, so one day it might become just too big for the material to hold, and it breaks down. So a tree can die of its own pure size and weight. Such thing surely will not happen to a Bonsai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord God made all plants to grow almost wherever their seed has fallen down and simply make the best of it. If you happen to live in a town and walk around with open eyes, you&#8217;ll find plants in most unbelievable places, and even trees.<br />
To survive in all those places is their biggest potential. To become a giant is just an ability.</p>
<p>So, there are two choices: make the best of the situation and<br />
grow, or die.<br />
Those, who get the opportunity to grow big by getting enough space and food, will do so immediately. But at least they can give the chance to the next generation.<br />
Those who are dead, will not do anything.</p>
<p>BTW: the  more colorful the leaves show in autumn, the better the year has been for the tree.<br />
The American Oak, also called Red Oak, will get less and less red in autumn the older the tree gets. As a Bonsai the color stays in age. Whilst the wild one stays lifelong on always the same ground, the Bonsai gets a new fresh ground and a root cut every few years.</p>
<p>A wild growing tree will grow as big as it can, so one day it might become just too big for the material to hold, and it breaks down. So a tree can die of its own pure size and weight. Such thing surely will not happen to a Bonsai.</p>
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		<title>By: Ella Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Ella Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Fiona, your post has been published at Carnival of Walking with God, hosted at http://underzodiacclock.com
Please, let everyone know, and link to that site.
Thank You,
Ella Moss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Fiona, your post has been published at Carnival of Walking with God, hosted at <a href="http://underzodiacclock.com" rel="nofollow">http://underzodiacclock.com</a><br />
Please, let everyone know, and link to that site.<br />
Thank You,<br />
Ella Moss</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I was rather smug writing it until I got to the end too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I was rather smug writing it until I got to the end too!</p>
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		<title>By: Endlessly Restless</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>Endlessly Restless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fiona
I was reading this entry quite happily (smugly?) until I reached the last few sentences where you talk about your own risk-averse atttiude in case you get drawn in to new ministries.  Then I realised that you were describing my current state very accurately!

There&#039;s a complacency - and pride - about being involved in specific areas for a long time, which sometimes needs to be challenged.

On the plant side of things I find Bonsais intriguing but not particularly appealling.  Having said that many plants - and people - benefit from regular pruning, encouraging growth in the areas desired by the gardener rather than the plant.  In some cases this increases fruitfulness, in others it&#039;s a question of control.  Now - like an un-pruned bramble - I&#039;m rambling, so I&#039;ll stop.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fiona<br />
I was reading this entry quite happily (smugly?) until I reached the last few sentences where you talk about your own risk-averse atttiude in case you get drawn in to new ministries.  Then I realised that you were describing my current state very accurately!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a complacency &#8211; and pride &#8211; about being involved in specific areas for a long time, which sometimes needs to be challenged.</p>
<p>On the plant side of things I find Bonsais intriguing but not particularly appealling.  Having said that many plants &#8211; and people &#8211; benefit from regular pruning, encouraging growth in the areas desired by the gardener rather than the plant.  In some cases this increases fruitfulness, in others it&#8217;s a question of control.  Now &#8211; like an un-pruned bramble &#8211; I&#8217;m rambling, so I&#8217;ll stop.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona Veitch Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona Veitch Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the plant front: each to their own! I know some very nice people who love Bonsai, but they really do disturb me (the plants not the people!). Whatever side of the bonsai divide we fall on, it&#039;s still a useful metaphor. How touching that people actually apologised to you for limiting your abilities! Now that&#039;s God&#039;s grace in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the plant front: each to their own! I know some very nice people who love Bonsai, but they really do disturb me (the plants not the people!). Whatever side of the bonsai divide we fall on, it&#8217;s still a useful metaphor. How touching that people actually apologised to you for limiting your abilities! Now that&#8217;s God&#8217;s grace in action.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.veitchsmith.com/2008/07/21/bonsai-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauline Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t call it hate mail, that&#039;s a bit strong.  Stuart has a couple of seedlings that he&#039;s been growing for he past few years for the express purpose of growing a bonsai. I think sometimes we need to think outside the plant pot because God shapes, hones and prunes us to make us better and more effective.  I think these wee, miniature trees are more beautiful than their huge brothers and sisters.  I agree that Christians&#039; growth can be stunted by not just their leaders but others around them limiting what they&#039;re capable of (certainly, I didn&#039;t really feel I blossomed as a person and Christian until I moved away from Belfast).  It&#039;s funny because a few of my friends did comment and apologise for limiting my abilities.  I guess sometimes people are more aware than we given them credit for and therefore I am probably guilty also of the stunting.  Isn&#039;t life completely cyclical?!!  

Sorry rambling now.

Love P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call it hate mail, that&#8217;s a bit strong.  Stuart has a couple of seedlings that he&#8217;s been growing for he past few years for the express purpose of growing a bonsai. I think sometimes we need to think outside the plant pot because God shapes, hones and prunes us to make us better and more effective.  I think these wee, miniature trees are more beautiful than their huge brothers and sisters.  I agree that Christians&#8217; growth can be stunted by not just their leaders but others around them limiting what they&#8217;re capable of (certainly, I didn&#8217;t really feel I blossomed as a person and Christian until I moved away from Belfast).  It&#8217;s funny because a few of my friends did comment and apologise for limiting my abilities.  I guess sometimes people are more aware than we given them credit for and therefore I am probably guilty also of the stunting.  Isn&#8217;t life completely cyclical?!!  </p>
<p>Sorry rambling now.</p>
<p>Love P</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona Veitch Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona Veitch Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to that Karen. And I&#039;m glad I&#039;ve opened your eyes to the horror that is bonsai. I&#039;m still waiting form my first hate mail from bonsai growers ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that Karen. And I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;ve opened your eyes to the horror that is bonsai. I&#8217;m still waiting form my first hate mail from bonsai growers &#8230;</p>
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